Monday, March 31, 2008

Answers - guitarquiz 15

..surprised that the average score wasn't higher on quiz 15. Oh, well. The songs were:
  • Song 71: Judas Priest - Painkiller. Faster than a bullet/Terrifying scream/Enraged and full of anger he's half man and half machine/Rides the metal monster/Breathing smoke and fire... ...pretty much the quintessential metal song here, and an awesome album to boot. Painkiller is by far my favorite Priest album. None of y'all got it = speaks volumes of the overlap in our respective tastes in music.
  • Song 72: Twisted Sister - We're Not Gonna Take It. Oh would you hook a brutha' up - only one of y'all recognized this one. Not exactly an unknown tune, I'd venture to say.
  • Song 73: Weezer - Buddy Holly. Not a big Weezer fan, but I kinda' like this one, and the video's awesome. Sadly, in my rush to record these tunes, the semi-clean part was done right after some major whammy bar freakouts, so it's a li'l out of tune....sorry about that. Didn't notice until after I'd recorded it, actually.
  • Song 74: Billy Joel - Movin' Out (Anthony's Song). Anthony works in a grocery store/Saving his pennies for some day/Mama Leone left a note on the door... Really kewl Billy Joel tune. Alas, none of y'all recognized it.
  • Song 75: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here. One of exactly two PF tunes I can listen to without waking up in the middle of the night screaming "How do I get the boredom out of my head". And yeah; Anders - I added an Am chord there.............anything to insert more notes. 'Cause contrary to popular belief, but completely in line with logic, MORE is more.

Which means that we've got the following Scores after round 15:

  1. Sondre (6/10)
  2. Pigeon (3/10)
  3. Cathy/Anders (tied at 2/10)

Consequently there was not much development in the Total Score:

  1. Sondre (102 points)
  2. Pigeon (84 points)
  3. Anders (79 points)
  4. Cathy (76 points)
  5. Torbjørn (6 points)

Congrats to Sondre and good luck on Quiz 16!

16 comments:

Anders said...

Dang! I didn't recongize Weezer! Actually, in my defense, I might only have heard the acoustic version. Because the electric guitar is a fraud (free from Mance Lipscomb).

Anyway, the only tune I managed this round, was Wish You Were Here.
Haven't got a clue on the others, so I just googled a couple of hairy bands and took some of their greatest hits and submitted those. (I think I had a look at Twisted Sisters, but I don't think they made the final cut on any on my suggestions, if I remember correctly). Haven't even heard most of the songs I submitted, and surprisingly enough, none of them were correct..

Song 74: Billy Joel - Movin' Out (Anthony's Song).
Anthony works in a grocery store/Saving his pennies for some day/Mama Leone left a note on the door... Really kewl Billy Joel tune. Alas, none of y'all recognized it.


But I was really close, no?
;-)

Wilhelm said...

...the electric guitar is a fraud?

Kudos on suggesting I Saw Red by Warrant, but that was not close enough by far.

What's the deal with everyone and their mother knowing Wish You Were Here, though? I really don't get it.

Anders said...

...the electric guitar is a fraud?

What, don't you like Mance Lipscomb?

Kudos on suggesting I Saw Red by Warrant, but that was not close enough by far.

Oooookey, was that my suggestion? I thought it was Haddaway - what is love. Guess that took the edge off my joke above...

What's the deal with everyone and their mother knowing Wish You Were Here, though? I really don't get it.

Because it's a classic? And by "classic" I don't mean "unknown, hairy 80's softmetal tune that are only known to a few local inbred drunks in the rural parts of Norway".

Wilhelm said...

Oooookey, was that my suggestion? I thought it was Haddaway - what is love. Guess that took the edge off my joke above...

It was - just messin' with your mind a little

Because it's a classic? And by "classic" I don't mean "unknown, hairy 80's softmetal tune that are only known to a few local inbred drunks in the rural parts of Norway".

LOL.....I should rephrase my question; why on earth is this song considered a classic? Or; why is Pink Floyd such a big name in rock?

Cathy said...

Because it's a classic? And by "classic" I don't mean "unknown, hairy 80's softmetal tune that are only known to a few local inbred drunks in the rural parts of Norway"

Exactly :)

LOL.....I should rephrase my question; why on earth is this song considered a classic? Or; why is Pink Floyd such a big name in rock?

Really?

Wilhelm said...

...about me not being able to wrap my head around why PF is such a "big" band?

Absolutely.

Cathy said...

...about me not being able to wrap my head around why PF is such a "big" band?

Absolutely.


Did I push a button? :p

Anders said...

Well, I was gonna say something about tone and "less is more" guitar style, songwriting and the history of rock, but then I remember that I'm a bonafide sycophant.

So I’ll just say this: I can't understand why PF in general and David Gilmore particular are considered legends. Take for instant the guitar skills and the melodic songwriting of people like Yngwie Malmsteen, or even younger guys like Herman Li and Sam Totman (talk about harmonized guitar playing) could outplay those old English dudes any day.

Unknown said...

Because it's a classic? And by "classic" I don't mean "unknown, hairy 80's softmetal tune that are only known to a few local inbred drunks in the rural parts of Norway"

Yesssssssssssssssss

Wilhelm said...

Cathy: You've got to put your back into it more than that

Anders: I'm actually serious. If you're thinking strictly about guitar tone and the less is more thing, then what about Frampton? Surely he should have way more props. If you're thinking about PF as a psychedelic band, then just about every band in the late 60's were on that bandwagon, including Billy Gibbons' previous outfit. PF were hardly the first, and within psychedelic rock, there's no such thing as being the best. If you're referring to PF as a prog rock band, then gimme' a break; that was a bandwagon they jumped on, and compared to bands like Genesis, Yes, King Crimson and Jethro Tull, or even UK. All bands which in my opinion are way better.

Pigeon: You couldn't muster the sack to diss me yourself, so you decided to piggyback on Anders' momentary lapse in sycophantism? Way to be a leader, bro ;-)

Cathy said...

Cathy: You've got to put your back into it more than that

Why? You think it's boring and, believe it or not, I respect your opinion. :) It's a bit difficult though not to react vividly to "Genesis is way better than PF". So here it is: REALLY??????



.... PF were hardly the first, and within psychedelic rock, there's no such thing as being the best

Don't really care if they were the first. That doesn't matter a lot, does it? They really are the best though ;)

Wilhelm said...

It's a bit difficult though not to react vividly to "Genesis is way better than PF". So here it is: REALLY??????

See; a lot of people will react the way you did right here. Btw; have you ever listened to "Selling England By The Pound", for example? My point being that PF jumped on the prog bandwagon, while the originators of the genre - also much superior from a technical pov, got the shaft in favor of the prog light or elevator prog that PF brought to the table.

PF are the best at prog rock much in the same way that Jamie Cullum is the best jazz pianist.

Cathy said...

Btw; have you ever listened to "Selling England By The Pound", for example?

Nope, but I guess I will.

Anders said...

Since rephrasing your question seems to have little effect, here are my serious thoughts on PF.

Let me start off by first saying that I actually like PF. The Waters era and even some of the newer stuff.

Second, I don't know why David Gilmore is considered a guitar legend. He seems to have an overall good score on "100 best guitarist ever" lists in magazines (even those kind of lists are ridiculous; on what basis can you compare Elmore James and Al Di Meola?), so obviously there are somebody out there who thinks otherwise. Yes, he is a decent guitarist; he does a good job on the albums and has some memorable solos. But that's your job as a lead guitarist, dammit. I find nothing spectacular or extraordinary in his playing.

And let's have a look at some of their albums. Wish You Were Here contains only five tracks, but most people can only name the title track (I know all five, since I have the album). So, if one is to be a bit harsh, one could say that this is a one hit album.

The Wall: A great album, but I think the "general audience" know this as a whole, as a concept or maybe even as a movie, rather then single tracks (Another Brick In The Wall being the exception). I also consider The Final Cut as part of The Wall concept, since it contains songs that are in the movie and didn't make it to the album. But the movie + the album is something that makes legend, I'll give them that. However, that is only one album. Let's move on.

Dark Side Of The Moon: beside The Wall, this is the most famous PF album. It has the title track and Money (which in Norway was much used as background music in TV/ radio reports regarding economy until ABBA release Money, Money, Money), but other than that, I don't think "the general audience" can name many songs from the album (compared to let's say, Brothers In Arms of Dire Straits or Born In The USA by Bruce Springsteen, both which I consider legendary albums by rock icons).

Albums before that has Meddle, which is an indication of what's to come and is an OK album, but the rest is just crap. Putting sampled bird sounds on an album isn't music (can't see how PF managed to release that many albums before they came up. Albums after these three albums are nothing spectacular; to be harsh, PF are just floating on their past fame.

So, to sum it up: I think PF is more of a concept album group then hit group. And although they have released many good albums, I would consider maximum one to be of "rock legend" quality.


(Kudos to W-boi for knowing about The Moving Sidewalks. I'm impressed. Will transfer the album to mp3 and mail it to you as a "thank you". It will fit right into the psychedelic part of your record collection. ;-) )

Wilhelm said...

Cathy: Old Genesis is da bomb, I tells ya. They jumped on the pop bandwagon in the 80's, but started out as a prog rock outfit

Anders: I agree with your thoughts on how the dynamic duo of Li and Totman have the potential to shift the paradigm of power metal towards a fusion of pure pop with death/black metal. Why; I'd never thought of that - kudos! ;-)

Let me start off by first saying that I actually like PF. The Waters era and even some of the newer stuff.

Don't I know it :-(

Second, I don't know why David Gilmore is considered a guitar legend

Amen to your comments here - all he does is apply stock blues licks and phrases to their chord progressions. By knowing the chord progressions and the starting point of the solo, you can predict which lick he'll use two minutes into the solo. I'm not saying that he doesn't know how to solo, just that he does so without any extra wow factor compared to what any decent blues guitarist would lay down over those tracks. Clapton would probably lay down some memorable solos over that stuff. Now Robert Fripp or Allan Holdsworth are guys who actually add something to the guitar playing of classic prog in terms of personal touch and originality. Ditto for Steve Howe.

The Wall: A great album, but I think the "general audience" know this as a whole, as a concept or maybe even as a movie, rather then single tracks (Another Brick In The Wall being the exception).

You know what; despite me hating the music on this album, I'm totally agreeing on it being a great rock opera/concept album/what have you. But that's one album.......

Putting sampled bird sounds on an album isn't music

A-freakin'-men. All that does is make you into some bad musical copies of Monty Python.

Alas; Kamelot has taken to adding wanna-be artsy interludes consisting of weird sounds like this......

I would consider maximum one to be of "rock legend" quality

I actually agree with that. It's hard to get around The Wall, much like you can't get around Tommy.

Despite appearances, I actually spent some time listening to various PF albums at an earlier stage, and even bought Tubular Bells or whatever it's called. Some people outside the band were quite adamant that Gilmore was the bomb, and that we should incorporate more of that feel into our music.

They also smoked a lot......

Anders said...

Wilhelm: Look who's the sycophant now. I can remember last time we agreed that much on a lengthy comment on music.
:)

Anders: I agree with your thoughts on how the dynamic duo of Li and Totman have the potential to shift the paradigm of power metal towards a fusion of pure pop with death/black metal. Why; I'd never thought of that - kudos! ;-)


Couldn't have said it better myself. :)