Sunday, June 7, 2009

Flickr update plug 060709


...relentless self-promoter that I am

17 comments:

Anders said...

That was a real nice photo.

Wilhelm said...

I really liked this one. Now I've got to figure out to suck less at Photoshop do make some B&W etc. And I need to shoot in raw.

Anders said...

Have you tried to rota...
Neh, that's getting really old really fast.

Can't remember what brand of camera you got, but be aware that you might have to install additional drivers/ software to be be able to show raw format photos in Windows.

Anders said...

Btw, when you go photoshop, I'd really like to see this one on grey tones or sephia. Especially sephia. I'm a sucker for sephia, have I mentioned that?

Wilhelm said...

.....Nikon D60

What the hell? Every photo mag shows a "Peep in RAW images" option in PhotoShop.

Have I been had?

Wilhelm said...

....sephia is the new pink, which makes it black

Anders said...

No, that's correct. Raw format will keep the photos uncompressed. jpeg will use a mathematical equation to compress the photo, meaning you will loose a bit of image quality, but gain in a lot less storage space. A big no-no, is to edit a jpeg and save it as jpeg over and over again. The loss in image quality will be real appearant after just a few edit-save cycles.

However, just a snap and storing/ printing as you do, a jpeg will give little perceptible loss in image quality, and be perfectly fine for normal size print-outs.

Nikon raw format can't be read by Windows, but if you've already installed the software that came with the camera, you might be good to go. I suggest taking one snap in raw formate and see if you like it.

Wilhelm said...

Raw format will keep the photos uncompressed. jpeg will use a mathematical equation to compress the photo, meaning you will loose a bit of image quality, but gain in a lot less storage space. A big no-no, is to edit a jpeg and save it as jpeg over and over again. The loss in image quality will be real appearant after just a few edit-save cycles.

Hmmmm..a mathematical equation you say? Too bad I suck at math, then

Anders said...

Sorry, that should be "algorithm", not equation. Which doesn't make it any bit (pun intendid) better.

Wilhelm said...

...well; seeing as how an algorithm is the implementation of an equation among a pre-existing set, you were technically correct the first time.

Ohmigawd.......where'd my lunch money go?

Anders said...

But now I had an excuse for pulling my "bit" joke.

And there went my lunch money as well...

Wilhelm said...

Easy come, easy go

And other Winger songs

Kjerstin said...

Nikon's RAW format typically needs additional software, but that makes sense, since RAW editing is for people who have LOTS of time on their hands, coupled with an obsessive need to adjust tiny details to make alternate versions that appear identical to everyone but themselves. The advice I like to use is: Look at the hardware tests in the photo magazine. Normally, somewhere you'll find two photos next to each other, one shot with the old model and one with the new (or something like it). If the difference between the photos appear as huge to you as the caption suggests, it might be worthwhile investinging RAW shooting. If, on the other hand, they appear completely identical (as they usually do to me), you will be fine with jpeg for the foreseeable future.

In my opinion, unless you are a professional photographer, shooting RAW is 97% snobbery.

Wilhelm said...

That's good advice Kjerstin - thanks.

It's somewhat annoying that all examples using PhotoShop that I've seen in photo mags start from a "Edit raw file" menu. Especially when my PhotoShop skillz are limited to rotating images, as Anders has repeatedly been kind enough to point out

Kjerstin said...

Agreed, but it's important to remember that the PS tips in photo magazines are meant for people who are already close to specialists. I think the best way to learn PS is to experiment (on a copy) and get familiar with the basic functions that you're most likely to use (color and contrast adjusting - and rotation). And for most purposes, there are online tutorials out there that are far more useful than the ones in the photo mags.

Anders said...

Anders has repeatedly been kind enough to point out

You're welcome.

Kjersti: Good advice on PS there. There are also cheaper alternatives then PS out there, with a bit less functions. Good for a beginner, since they might find it less intimidating. Actually, even in the newest version of Word you can do some basic photo adjustments.

Wilhelm said...

Yeah; good advice.

Dammit; I was actually reasonably proficient in InDesign when I got a new computer but didn't renew the license.